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Nov. 19th, 2011 03:57 pm
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5 Ways You Know This Was a Ben Edlund Episode:

1. A lecture from Bobby to Dean plays like genuine if curmudgeonly compassion instead of callous douchebaggery.

2. Said lecture ends with a great line like, "We gotta scrape up some cash and get you a condo."

3. You don't hate Sam.

4. Sam, Dean and Bobby are described as, respectively, "Big Bird, Ken Doll and Creepy Uncle," and you just sit there and laugh because it's so true. Especially the Ken Doll.

5. Castiel is credited not once, but twice, as the cause of Dean's melancholia.

That said, it was a pretty bizarre episode and I honestly think that between losing Castiel and being shifted (either voluntarily or not) to some sort of "consulting" role on the show, Ben Edlund just doesn't give a shit and is gonna write whatever craziness he wants. Which of course, makes me love Ben Edlund. I'll also admit that the ending and preview of the next episode kind of stunned me, though considering the next episode is the last one before midseason hiatus, I don't expect anything other than a giant cliffhanger at the end.

Date: 2011-11-19 11:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shoofus.livejournal.com
no one ever dies for real on this show

we will get ghosts, flashbacks and crowley will kick him out of hell, i betcha, to help take down the leviathans

Date: 2011-11-22 01:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oselle.livejournal.com
Maybe, though I'm a little tired of people coming back from the dead on this show. I think someone has to stay dead for a change.

Date: 2011-11-25 03:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shoofus.livejournal.com
well bobby can stay dead, but i doubt his ghost will

Date: 2011-11-20 04:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oxer12.livejournal.com
I seem to be in the minority, but I LOVE Bobby. I will be very sad if he dies. Though of course, as you said, no one ever truly dies on this show.

To your point #5 - I was so happy to hear those references. Of course Cas is the cause of Dean's melancholia! Duh!

Date: 2011-11-22 01:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oselle.livejournal.com
Only Ben Edlund would ever admit it, though.

Date: 2011-11-20 05:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kinkthatwinked.livejournal.com
Seems like Castiel getting mentioned at all is an indication that the writer is someone who loved him; the other writers are acting like a Star Trek red shirt got bumped off.

Betcha Bobby won't get that kind of write-off if they go through with this.

I've always liked Bobby, but I've wondered if they should let that character go for awhile. Remember the early seasons, whenever Sam and Dean needed some research done they either fired up a laptop or found a library themselves? Compare that to today, when they have Bobby on speed-dial, like doing the Winchesters' paper chasing is the man's purpose in life.

There were times the boys needed a father figure, or a third team member, or a hunter-friendly place to regroup, or a house decked out in supernatural books and protection. Of course, there was also a time when they got along without any of that stuff.

Obviously Bobby has been considered "family" for years, even after the falling out with him and John. So the exit should be a big, emotional freakin' deal. Just like the two-parter they're building this up to be.

I'll miss him, but if they're gonna do it, now's the time.

Date: 2011-11-22 01:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oselle.livejournal.com
I've never been that bothered by Bobby's role as the all-purpose go-to guy -- I've been far more annoyed by Bobby's occasional forays into thoughtless high-horse jackass territory, especially where Dean was concerned. Bobby was especially unlikable throughout most of Season 5, where his endless self-pity left no room in his heart to have pity for anyone else (except, inexplicably, Sam).

If they DO kill Bobby, I have to wonder what that means. What is their purpose in isolating Sam and Dean even more? Are they just building up to the end of the series, or do they actually have some sort of plan?

I also wonder what this will mean for Dean. He was so distraught when Bobby's house burned down and he thought Bobby was dead that he was talking about suicide. So what will happen if Bobby really is dead this time?

Date: 2011-11-22 05:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kinkthatwinked.livejournal.com
God, I wish I could say I believe they have a master plan here, but unless TPTB have suddenly pulled their collective heads from their asses (and "Wedding" would suggest they haven't) I suspect they're still just winging it. *sigh*

Unless "Wedding" was their last hurrah, and now they're gonna get serious ... but how likely is that?

In the season opener Dean was still reeling from Castiel, and if he had lost Cas and Bobby back-to-back like that, Dean probably would have given up. With Sam piecing himself back together into someone almost recognizable as the guy we used to like, Dean may tell himself he still has his brother to live for.

Does that sound airtight, or even plausible? Not really. But how much you wanna bet, if they kill Bobby off, that's the party line the show will adopt?

Date: 2011-11-22 07:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darkboudicca.livejournal.com
I just wish the writers would lose the idea that they can prop Sam up only by tearing Dean down. I used to feel like respect for one's characters was one of the central tenets of the writer's commandments or something, but the writers on Supernatural seem to be working from an abridged edition.

Date: 2011-11-21 07:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darkboudicca.livejournal.com
At this point I feel like they have to kill Bobby, or at least seriously incapacitate him (coma, maybe) because they've already implied his death before when leviathan burned his house down, and if they pull him back from the jaws of death this time too they'll seriously undermine their own attempts at building tension.

Date: 2011-11-22 01:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oselle.livejournal.com
I have to admit that killing Bobby would be one of the first surprising things the show has done in a long time.

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