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John McCain is a fucking idiot.

Asked "what's wrong with government-run healthcare" he responds:

"And we continue to have these debates — what’s wrong with it? Go to Canada. Go to England and you can find out what’s wrong with it. Governments don’t make the right decisions. Families make the right decisions."

WHAT IS THIS JACKASS TALKING ABOUT!?!?

"Families" are NOT making healthcare decisions in this country. Healthcare decisions are being made by corporations THAT HAVE NO INTEREST IN HEALTHCARE. THAT IS THE PROBLEM, ASSHOLE.

Where the fuck are all these "families" who have the option of making healthcare decisons for themselves and their loved-ones? I don't know any. Everyone I know is just like me -- I get a "choice" of ONE insurance plan -- the one that my employer offers. I can "decide" to have access ONLY to those doctors, medications and procedures that THE INSURANCE COMPANY agrees to pay for. Everything else comes out of my own pocket and my pockets are not deep. And if I got dropped by my insurance company, I would get to "decide" on...paying full price for healthcare or not. In other words, having healthcare or not. That is the only "decision" I would get to make.

What a raving asshole.

Read all about it here: John McCain is an asshole who thinks you don't deserve the same healthcare he's got.

Date: 2008-04-20 10:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] claudia603.livejournal.com
In full agreement. It's a topic that burns me up from the inside out.

Date: 2008-04-20 10:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oselle.livejournal.com
Yes. It practically cooks my eyeballs, I swear. AND NO ONE CALLS HIM ON IT. No one says, "Say, John, where are these families who get to make 'decisions' on healthcare?" Does he honestly think a shitty $5,000 tax credit is enough to provide adequate healthcare for an entire family, or even one person, in every situation? What about emergency care? What about traumatic accidents? What about cancer? Is $5,000 enough to cover that!?

OMG. Help. Me.

Date: 2008-04-20 10:51 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] sistermagpie.livejournal.com
I can't believe how he doesn't get called on that. He just refers to this vague fantasy where in other countries people are forced to do something while here we've got our "freedom" so we get to choose what we do. Which is so far away from the actual picture of what's going on here it's like...how do you even respond to it except to ask, "What is this jackass talking about?"

Date: 2008-04-21 01:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oselle.livejournal.com
I know. When he says "go to Canada, go to England"...um, WHAT IS THIS JACKASS TALKING ABOUT? We both know people in Canada and England, and while they might not think everything about their national healthcare is perfect, they certainly would NEVER give it up for this bullshit "freedom" that McCain is touting -- a "freedom" that is so completely fictional, so fantastical, that, like you said, there's really no way to respond to it. It's like he's talking about something he heard from tarot cards.

Jackass.

Date: 2008-04-21 01:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mariole.livejournal.com
This was a great link! I also enjoyed this one, a conservative blashing McCain as a terrible candidate, that I found in the comments:

THE MOST FLAWED PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE IN HISTORY:

http://www.wcltam.com/news/special/articledetail.cfm?articleid=23261

Date: 2008-04-21 08:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] llinos.livejournal.com
Go to Canada. Go to England and you can find out what’s wrong with it.

And that's the biggest con of all! There is very little wrong with it - they tell you that it's rubbish because they don't want to give it to you. Of course you will find problems with anything as big as a comprehensive health care service - but on the whole it's pretty damn good! Also, we can still opt to go privately, many employers give private health insurance. But that is mostly a question of scheduling - i.e. get routine surgery done when you want. Mostly though all it entitles you to is a private room, as opposed to a large ward shared with (usually) four or maybe six others.

My husband is due to have surgery, and has private insurance with his firm. But we were quite pleased when the surgeon bumped his op back a couple of weeks because he had two NHS patients who needed more urgent attention. Nice to know you don't get preferential treatment ahead of needy cases. Also that you get the same surgeon whether you go NHS or private!

But don't take my word for it. [livejournal.com profile] marigoldg made a comment on Shirebound's journal recently. I know she won't mind me quoting her here ('cos she's my mate!) She speaks as an American who has now settled in the UK!

"I am so lucky to live in the UK now! A while back when I had the problems with tendonitis in both wrists and DeQuervain's affecting my left, I was looked after right away, including a nifty cast made on the spot to wear at night, physiotherapy, various injections for the pain and all of it was free. The surgery would have been free as well but luckily the other treatments sorted out the problem. There was not so much as a single form to fill in either.

"I can't get over the quality and availability of medical treatment over here. All of the thyroid medication that I couldn't afford in the US is free for me here and because that's a chronic condition every other prescription I might ever need is free as well, for life. Even if I had to pay it's only £6.50 for any prescription. Doctor's consultations are free and they will even come to your house if you're very ill. Free.

"And as to bureaucracy, it seems almost non-existent in the NHS. When I got married and went across the road to register at the doctor's surgery I expected sheaves of forms and demands of proof of eligibility. In reality all that happened was that they asked me to fill in a tiny form with my name and address, assigned me to a personal physician and that was it!

"Having seen things from both sides of the Pond I just can't understand why the US makes things so impossible for the people to be taken care of, all in the name of Big Money for Big Business. It just isn't fair and it really makes me want to rant!

"If I ever had to move back to the States I would start a campaign for a national health service - not that Big Business would ever let it happen."

So go and tell that to you politicians! Make a fuss - organise a march. Keep on until someone listens!!

Date: 2008-04-21 09:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oselle.livejournal.com
And that's the biggest con of all!

What makes me so angry is that it's a con that's so fucking easy to expose and yet our press doesn't bother to do it, and so people continue to believe that healthcare in every country except the US is some godawful primitive horroshow. I mean, my God, [livejournal.com profile] marigoldg could disprove McCain's LIES with her story alone! When are people going to wake up?

I've been flirting for years with the idea of moving to the UK. Right now my biggest obstacles are my elderly parents and the shitty value of the dollar. I don't know. Maybe I should start putting together a five-year plan to get the hell out of here. The thought of getting old here scares the shit out of me.

Date: 2008-04-21 09:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oselle.livejournal.com
The only reason McCain's getting the nomination is because just about every other Republican candidate was a buffoon. Besides McCain, the primary-season frontrunners were Rudy Giuliani, Mitt Romney and Fred Thompson, who were "qualified" for the job because, respectively, they held press conferences on 9/11, had great hair, and appeared on Law & Order. Every one of them, McCain included, is unfit to be president.

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