Confirm or Deny?

[oselle]

Can anyone confirm whether it's true that Jeremy Carver has left Supernatural?

I hope it's not true because he was pretty much the last writer on that team that I had any faith in.

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[ann-tara.livejournal.com]

They confirmed it at Comic Con. He's the showrunner on SyFy's Being Human:US. Sorry.

[oselle.livejournal.com]

Unbelievable. This season is going to suck more balls than a J2 AU PWP.

ETA: I'm actually very happy for Carver because I think he's a great writer who knows how to focus objectively on story and character...I personally think he would have been a better choice for SPN's showrunner than Gamble and it's great that he's getting to run his own show (even if it is an imported remake).

[ann-tara.livejournal.com]

This season is going to suck more balls than a J2 AU PWP

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!

You might be right, but that line almost makes it worth it. ;D

[oselle.livejournal.com]

I use humor to mask my pain.

[mangokulfi.livejournal.com]

If it makes you feel any better, Sera did say the door was always open to Carver. And the chances of success for an American rip-off of BH are pretty darn slim.

[muffaletta.livejournal.com]

Jinx! Hee.

[oselle.livejournal.com]

It'll be on cable so they define "success" in a whole different way. They don't depend upon ratings the way network does -- I honestly don't know how they determine whether to keep a show on or not. Even if it sucks, an American Being Human could be on for two or three seasons.

Why do Americans do this all the time, I wonder -- adapt foreign television shows? It doesn't go the other way. I don't see the BBC piloting a British Supernatural that's practically a word-for-word remake of the original, just with British actors and settings...though frankly, I'd watch it. Though I don't think the whole "gritty backroads, off-the-grid" thing would translate well to the English countryside. I'm LMAOing just thinking about it!

[mangokulfi.livejournal.com]

I remember watching an episode of Torchwood which did their version of X-Files' Home or Benders and I laughed my ass off because the backwoods redneck cannibals were right out of Hollywood central casting but with Yorkshire or Devonshire (can't remember) accents. I know there are country bumpkins in the UK too but these just seemed so inauthentically Hollywood.

[oselle.livejournal.com]

I think I saw that episode of Torchwood! English hillbillies are just not all that scary, are they? All they make me think of is The Vicar of Dibley.

[mangokulfi.livejournal.com]

Hee! TV Brits really do come off as too cuddly to be really scary, even the racist rednecky ones. Unless they're marching skineads. They really scare me in any country.

[mangokulfi.livejournal.com]

The Brits are doing their version of Law and Order. I think one the Doctors' companions is the lead.

[muffaletta.livejournal.com]

Sera said that he's welcome to come back and that he could write an episode if he has time.

Depending on if the series works out (and don't most cable shows have fewer episodes than network?), who knows? Maybe he'll sneak something in.

[oselle.livejournal.com]

Cable series usually have 10-12 episodes per season. I'm sure the door is open but it doesn't mean he'll come back. Raelle Tucker sure never made any guest appearances after she left, and now that her show is getting Emmy nominations I'm sure she thinks it's the best thing she ever did.

[muffaletta.livejournal.com]

Very true but her show also ended up being a hit. Carver might not be so lucky. And the circumstances under which each left might be different too. I never read an invitation from Kripke welcoming Tucker to come back, even as a "guest" writer. And I remember an interview Tucker gave about a year or so ago when she made a vague but snippy remark when asked about working on SPN/with Kripke. I wondered if perhaps her pushing back against Kripke on "What Is" might not have been a one time deal. It's possible that there might have been ongoing friction between them.

That being said, I'm not holding my breath for Carver necessarily coming back either.

[mangokulfi.livejournal.com]

Heh! Jinx you this time. :D

[oselle.livejournal.com]

It did wind up being a hit and I'm sure that Tucker played no small part in helping to make it one. I don't doubt for a minute that she felt creatively hampered on SPN -- she certainly seemed to have a better grasp on the characters than the show's creator did, and I don't think she shared the peurile sense of humor that seems to afflict the rest of the writers from time to time. Unlike Gamble, who seems to have eyes only for Sam, she was able to write both Sam and Dean with a sensitivity and insight that have been almost entirely absent from the show since she left, never elevating one character at the expense of the other. I'm not surprised the Kripke/Gamble team never invited her back...I doubt she'd go back even if she were asked.

[mangokulfi.livejournal.com]

I always wondered if Raelle didn't actually leave on the best of terms. I remember reading an interview with her after she TB got big and she said she never felt like SPN was a good fit for her. Which is puzzling since I think she and Sera had been writing partners before the show.

[oselle.livejournal.com]

I've always wondered that too and I actually don't find it all that puzzling to hear that she thought SPN wasn't a good fit. Judging from some of her better episodes, like "Faith" (written with Gamble) and "What Is..." (solo), one of her real strengths was character development, which I don't think interests Kripke at all, and only seems to interest Sera Gamble if the character is Sam and the "development" involves getting his shirt off. Tucker's "problem" was probably that she wanted to take Sam and Dean (and the show) seriously while the rest of the writers wanted to play Ghostfacers or mock the audience or whatever the hell they've been doing for the past three years. The fact that Andrew Dabb and Daniel Loflin -- two guys who seem to know less about the show than even an average fangirl -- have become regular contributors is proof to me that Kripke & Co. don't really give much of a shit about SPN's integrity.

[mangokulfi.livejournal.com]

Yeah. She was the one that talked Kripke out of making Dean a complete loser alcoholic in What Is. Maybe the talk wasn't so friendly. Ah well. She's gone on to bigger and better with True Blood. Which is a show that I watch but don't actually like. But I keep watching anyway. It's stranglely addictive. Kinda like smoking.