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oselle ([personal profile] oselle) wrote2010-10-22 11:11 pm
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SPN 6:05: Live Free or Twihard



That sucked. No pun intended. I mean it really sucked. It's not even worth doing my usual blabbity-blah because it just sucked.

You may be thinking that I thought it sucked because we now know beyond any doubt that Sam not only doesn't care about Dean but will actively put him in harm's way, even to the point of being killed. Actually, it's even worse than that, he's willing to use Dean as some sort of...science experiment. He's a paranormal Dr. Mengele. Okay so, point taken: Dean means nothing to Sam except for however Sam can exploit him to satisfy whatever sick curiosity. Got it.

What sucks is that I know that none of this will matter. It will never receive a satisfactory explanation or resolution, Sam will be unjustifiably exonerated, Dean will apologize for... something, and Sera Gamble will give an interview talking about how cool it all is. THAT, my friends, is what sucks.

ETA: Oh, and what was that "maybe your brother has some Campbell in him after all" crap? Shut the fuck up, gramps. Where were you when the apocalypse was going down, big shot? Hiding out at your compound with the rest of your sociopath douchebag militia?
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[identity profile] janissa11.livejournal.com 2010-10-23 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
At least it looks like Dean gets to punch Samgele next week.

Maybe I can dl this one and at least get to see Dean vomiting. Because I do have a barf kink. *shrug*

[identity profile] oselle.livejournal.com 2010-10-23 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
It was projectile bloody barf, too!

I liked Dean passing out. I have a passing-out kink and Jensen's really good at it.

[identity profile] zatnikatel.livejournal.com 2010-10-23 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
What sucks is that I know that none of this will matter. It will never receive a satisfactory explanation or resolution, Sam will be unjustifiably exonerated, Dean will apologize for... something

Oh, this. This, this, this. I am actually interested up to a point… but this makes it utterly clear that there is something influencing Sam, because otherwise they can't possibly hope to get back to the brotherly dynamic. And that's where my interest fizzles and dies, because part of this surely needs to be Sam owning his actions and repenting. But, nah it never is: he's soulless, or dissociative, or maybe he isn't really Sam. Something's wrong with Sam – it must be Friday. Yawn, so widely it just gave me a temporomandibular joint disorder that means my jaw will click loudly for the rest of my life every time I open my mouth too wide.

[identity profile] oselle.livejournal.com 2010-10-23 03:40 am (UTC)(link)
On another show, this final destruction of one of the main characters would be gripping. On this show? Not so much. If they're going to make Sam this bad then the only way I see out of it is to have Dean gank him by the end of the season.

[identity profile] zatnikatel.livejournal.com 2010-10-23 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
Heh. And then they'll just resurrect Sam. And whaddya know: he won't be 100% pure Sammy any more… Seriously though, I wonder if they would go there? I've read that JA has signed on for a possible S7, but has JP? Maybe they might… I actually think a Dean-Cas partnership for S7 could be the shot in the arm Show needs at this point.

[identity profile] oselle.livejournal.com 2010-10-23 03:58 am (UTC)(link)
I'm reading such great reviews for AMC's The Walking Dead and while I realize that the CW has nowhere near the budget to mount that kind of effort, I do so wish they'd gone with the apocalypse this season. Now THAT would have been a shot in the arm.

[identity profile] zatnikatel.livejournal.com 2010-10-23 04:58 am (UTC)(link)
I dream of Show on HBO…
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[identity profile] sistermagpie.livejournal.com 2010-10-23 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
Look, he was in hell! The BAD part of hell! For nearly 15 minutes! It changed him! He's in pain and then he sacrificed to give Dean the life he wanted! Etc. etc. etc.

[identity profile] oselle.livejournal.com 2010-10-23 04:04 am (UTC)(link)
Oh yes, he sacrificed for a whole year to give Dean the life he wanted only to drag him back into hunting for no reason and then stand there twirling his metaphorical mustache while Dean gets turned into the undead. What. The Fuck. Oh wait, right...the bad part of hell, not the "penthouse." Got it.

[identity profile] zatnikatel.livejournal.com 2010-10-23 04:56 am (UTC)(link)
Fifteen whole minutes! I totes forgot that! :-D

[identity profile] oselle.livejournal.com 2010-10-23 11:24 am (UTC)(link)
Someone do the math...if every month on earth equals 10 hell years, then what does 15 earth minutes equal?

ETA: I'm coming up with 30 hours. By Sam's reckoning, he was in hell for just a hair over one day. Cakewalk.
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[identity profile] zatnikatel.livejournal.com 2010-10-23 12:08 pm (UTC)(link)
But don't forget, it was the bad part of Hell. O_O

Dean was in the good part…

[identity profile] salty-catfish.livejournal.com 2010-10-23 05:17 pm (UTC)(link)
30 hours is what I got, too. Or rather 29 2/3 ;).

[identity profile] iontas.livejournal.com 2010-10-23 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
I guess I still have hope. Perhaps the thing that sees me though is the awesome job Jensen is doing with what he is given. And I loved Dean kicking ass against all the vamps. Shades of season one take charge Dean. Sam reminds me of the Star Trek character Dr Corbet who transferred his consciousness into a robot and didn't realize he lost what made him human. Maybe Sam made some similar type of deal.

[identity profile] oselle.livejournal.com 2010-10-23 01:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Jensen can't keep carrying this forever and as far as Sam goes, they're finally going to have to commit to him being evil and run with it or just drop that idea altogether -- and if they go with the former option, they CANNOT have Dean riding shotgun next to him because that would just be ridiculous.

[identity profile] mangokulfi.livejournal.com 2010-10-23 05:18 am (UTC)(link)
What sucks is that I know that none of this will matter. It will never receive a satisfactory explanation or resolution, Sam will be unjustifiably exonerated, Dean will apologize for... something, and Sera Gamble will give an interview talking about how cool it all is. THAT, my friends, is what sucks./i>

If it wasn't for this, I would actually be loving this season.

[identity profile] oselle.livejournal.com 2010-10-23 01:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know, for me the most interesting thing about this season so far has been Jensen's unexpected bust-out and quasi-backpedal.

[identity profile] mangokulfi.livejournal.com 2010-10-23 04:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I guess for me, I gave up on the brotherly bond in season 5 so I like that there are other characters that are interacting with the brothers, especially Dean. I wish we were getting more Castiel but I do buy the Dean/Lisa/Ben that they have set up so I'm along for the ride there too. I suspect that we will get more Cas once Lisa is out of the picture.

I do feel though that this season lacks a certain energy (except for last week) but I think that's partially because I'm still getting a sense that the scripts are too big and end up being reworked in the editing room so the pacing is kind of wonky.

I hate to admit it but I am reluctantly intrigued with what is going on with Sam even though I am expecting a huge whitewash to come out of it. As long as they don't turn it around on to Dean at some point, I think I will be relatively happy.

[identity profile] oselle.livejournal.com 2010-10-23 06:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Dean/Lisa/Ben turned out not to be the embarrassing soap opera that I thought it would be, but that's the best I can say about it and it's faint praise indeed. It certainly doesn't mean that I want to see more of that story. If they want to bring them back together at the end of the series that'll be fine with me but I don't need to know any more about Dean's family life. I don't mind other characters interacting with the brothers but this show has never functioned well for me as an ensemble so I like "other characters" to stay firmly in the background.

I've also given up on the brotherly "bond" but not on the brothers themselves, since the two main characters have always been what the show's about. Now it looks like one of them has at last completed the final leg of his journey to becoming an absolute, irredeemable son-of-a-bitch and I would LOVE to be intrigued by that, I know I'm SUPPOSED to be intrigued by that, but I can't be. I have no capacity to be intrigued by whatever's going on with Sam. Whitewash it, handwave it, sweep it under the rug and forget about it -- you know that's what will happen, so there's just no point in letting myself get caught up in "where Sera Gamble's going with this." She's not going anywhere.

[identity profile] coronasunrise.livejournal.com 2010-10-23 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Would you have liked the episode better if you were not convinced they are going to hand-wave Sam's behavior away?

[identity profile] oselle.livejournal.com 2010-10-23 09:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know. They've really taken Sam past the point of no return this time and all prior experience suggests that they like hitting that point and then slapping some quick fix on it. It's like when they totally destroyed Dean in "Head of A Pin" and then promised that the next episode would give him a real "shot in the arm," which turned out to be a stupid, shallow speech from heaven's douchebaggiest angel. If this team had ever given me an evidence that they know how to clean up their messes, I might have liked the episode, but they haven't done so to date.

[identity profile] salty-catfish.livejournal.com 2010-10-23 11:57 am (UTC)(link)
Hey we got some good close-ups of Dean's indecently green eyes.

[identity profile] oselle.livejournal.com 2010-10-23 01:20 pm (UTC)(link)
There's always that, I guess.

[identity profile] emeraldus.livejournal.com 2010-10-23 05:55 pm (UTC)(link)
The biggest disappointment of last night? No neck nibbling of Dean. I was expecting neck nibbling!

And, hey, writers, all the heavy handed not subtle at all slamming of Twilight is not clever, it's just in poor taste, and it smacks of sour grapes. This is from someone who's anti-Twilight.

[identity profile] oselle.livejournal.com 2010-10-23 06:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, Gordon nibbled on Dean's neck back in "Fresh Blood."

I think it's funny as hell that all the vamps were deliberately recruited because they were attractive but Boris himself was an ugly mofo. Heaven forbid the writers throw us some fanservice by having Dean get manhandled and turned by some leatherclad prettyboy.

As far as the Twilight mockery...Twilight is so awful it's almost impossible to mock. The fake passage that Dean read out loud was nowhere near as dreadful as anything you'll find in the actual books. And if you're going to make fun of something, you should at least be consistent -- they didn't even make an effort to make those book jackets look like the real ones (a look that would be very easy to duplicate) and why did Dean mention "Lautner" as if they were talking about the real Twilight series and not a parody of it?
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[identity profile] ariadnes-string.livejournal.com 2010-10-25 03:26 pm (UTC)(link)
weirdly, I kind of enjoyed the episode--I think maybe because I've given up pretending I watch the show for any other reason than Dean--though it's really for JA playing Dean--and the episode gave us some lovely flavors of Dean, including ready-to-die-right-now!Dean, buckled-over-in-pain!Dean and supercharged-jumping-from-a-balcony!Dean.

As for Sam, etc.--I just can't be fucked to care...

So, less invested, but shallowly pleased *g*

[identity profile] oselle.livejournal.com 2010-10-25 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Really, part of what annoys me so much is that all the dumb stuff distracts me from The Pretty. I could sit there and watch The Pretty change his sparkplugs for 40 minutes if there wasn't all this other crap getting in the way.