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Jul. 13th, 2011 09:03 pm
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My British friends, you have no idea what a bullet you've dodged now that Rupert Murdoch has dropped his bid to take over complete control of British Sky Broadcasting. Forget that. You dodged a cannonball. You dodged a fucking A-bomb. The last thing you ever want over there is an Anglo version of Fox News.

I am also admiring your outrage, and I doubt we'll see anything like it over here, even if it is proven that Murdoch's "news" outlets were up to the same dirty tricks. Because here in the U.S.A., we sure love us some billionaire megalomaniacs. You know why? Because they're the good people. The deserving people. The producers that make our economy run, while the rest of us are just leeches. Envious, class-warfaring, socialist leeches. You Brits obviously haven't gotten the message that people like Murdoch deserve to be venerated as patron saints of capitalism who should never, ever be sullied by reproach or inquiry from the plebian, parasite hordes. I swear, if Lex Luthor were real, he'd be the superhero here in modern America, while Superman would be vilified as some leftwing rabble-rouser who was just jealous of Luthor's success.

Keep up the good work, ya limeys.

Date: 2011-07-14 01:29 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] sistermagpie.livejournal.com
I don't see how God could make it any more clear. If these gys didn't have his favor more than anyone else God wouldn't have showered them with money. Outward sign of inward grace, people!

Date: 2011-07-14 01:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oselle.livejournal.com
Oh yes, I forgot that part. Rich people are clearly God's favorite children and the ENTIRE BIBLE got it all wrong.

Date: 2011-07-14 02:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mangokulfi.livejournal.com
Dude have you been reading the WSJ again? Or just watching Fox News?

Date: 2011-07-15 10:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oselle.livejournal.com
Oh, I don't have to follow any of those sources to pick up these ideas. They're just out here in the culture. I live in a country where a Senator can tell a senior citizen to shift for herself when it comes to healthcare and people applaud, but increasing the tax rate on the wealthiest citizens is railed against as the coming of economic armageddon.

Date: 2011-07-14 03:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mariole.livejournal.com
> Lex Luthor were real, he'd be the superhero here in modern America, while Superman would be vilified as some leftwing rabble-rouser

Much as it hurts to say... Word.

Date: 2011-07-14 05:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] merylmarie.livejournal.com
Wordy mcword. :p

Date: 2011-07-15 10:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oselle.livejournal.com
Yep. Sigh.

Date: 2011-07-14 06:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ghyste.livejournal.com
I don’t think we can claim any particular moral superiority. The British public have been cheerfully ignoring the revelations about NotW hacking politicians’ and celebrities’ telephones for ages. It was only when it was revealed that they hacked into a missing teenage girl’s mobile and deleted messages to make room for more, thereby making the police and her family think she was still alive, that anyone sat up and took notice.

Date: 2011-07-15 10:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oselle.livejournal.com
I know, I know. And I know I can't get the whole media picture from your side, but what I'm seeing at least looks like outrage. Better late than never.

Date: 2011-07-14 09:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pearlette.livejournal.com
I'm overjoyed about the BSkyB deal being dead in the water. All of this is grimly satisfying to watch and I can only hope that the fallout from all this really does bring down Murdoch and his empire.

But I'm sorry to say that our politicians -- both Labour and Tory -- have been toadying to Murdoch for ages, because he brings big bucks. It was a brave British journalist, and a few others, who blew the lid off this pit of filth.

I think the British public were completely indifferent to celebrities' phones being hacked ... it was the shocking revelation that Milly Dowler's phone had been hacked (she was a 13 year old girl murdered in 2002 by a vicious serial killer) that really turned the public's stomach. The journalist responsible DELETED MESSAGES on her phone, giving her family false hope that she was alive, AND tampering with crucial evidence. American stomachs will rightly be churning at the thought that the phones of 9/11 victims might have been hacked. Absolutely repulsive.

Date: 2011-07-14 02:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ramalama.livejournal.com
Yes, Jon Stewart ably demonstrated this on "The Daily Show". Absolutely revolting. And the hero of this story is... Hugh Grant? You Brits are a kick in the pants.

Date: 2011-07-14 05:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pearlette.livejournal.com
Yes, this has been Hugh's finest hour. :). I haven't always liked him very much, but he gets big brownie points for this one.

Date: 2011-07-15 10:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oselle.livejournal.com
Crap, I didn't even know Stewart was back from vacation! I need to catch up with him online.

Date: 2011-07-15 10:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oselle.livejournal.com
I have no doubt that much like Voldemort, Murdoch will rise again. This is merely a bump in the road.

It was a brave British journalist, and a few others, who blew the lid off this pit of filth.

See, but that's a big difference. You still HAVE real journalists, apparently. Over here so many people in media are either terrified of Murdoch, or they want to work for him so badly, that they're happy to keep their mouths shut.

American stomachs will rightly be churning at the thought that the phones of 9/11 victims might have been hacked.

The connection with 9/11 is probably the only thing that will stir people over here to outrage. That, at least, is quasi-sacred. Everything else is fair game.

Date: 2011-07-14 10:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arabia764.livejournal.com
I think Murdock's big mistake was hacking real peoples phones - a murdered teenage girl and the families of soldiers who'd been killed. That and going after the queen - that's a big no-no for lots of people her (although personally I don't care.)

As for hacking celebrities, no, I don't think anyone cared.

After seeing Fox news I'm down on my knees thankful that Murdock has been stopped.

Date: 2011-07-15 10:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oselle.livejournal.com
After seeing Fox news I'm down on my knees thankful that Murdock has been stopped.

You have no idea. Fox News is like something out of a dystopian nightmare. If I read it in fiction, I'd probably think it was over the top.

Date: 2011-07-14 02:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mother2012.livejournal.com
Every bit, yes. Very well said. Will it stop Fox 'News'? Doubtful. Hubby says his Twitter political group is pushing it but, y'know, we're just 'socialist leaches'. (And I don't think you're stretching that at all.)

Date: 2011-07-15 10:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oselle.livejournal.com
No, it will not stop Fox News, and it will not stop Murdoch, but maybe this will take some gloss off of his business genius reputation. "Crook" is not synonymous with "genius."

Date: 2011-07-14 06:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tazical.livejournal.com
Mostly I'm just amused at how all the other news outlets over here are acting OUTRAGED at the News of the World/Murdoch antics, like the rest of the news outlets are all pure as the driven snow when it comes to moral reporting. Suuuuure.

Ha, I remember the first time I saw Fox News. Best comedy I watched in years.

Date: 2011-07-14 11:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greenamberblue.livejournal.com
"Mostly I'm just amused at how all the other news outlets over here are acting OUTRAGED at the News of the World/Murdoch antics, like the rest of the news outlets are all pure as the driven snow when it comes to moral reporting. Suuuuure."
Yeah, weeding through the bins (literally) belonging to various celebrities, looking for secrets, has been a long established method of investigation used by journalists from ALL newspapers...they just didn't want to get their hands dirty anymore, so they moved to phone hacking, and deception instead.
Celebrities are always considered fair game by the public because they are in the public eye, but when it's regular people..victims and grieving families, that's a completely different ball game. Not to mention screwing with poice investigations; sheesh I wonder how any of these "professional" journalists thought any of this was okay, and inconsequential.

Date: 2011-07-14 11:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greenamberblue.livejournal.com
that's "police" btw

Date: 2011-07-15 10:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oselle.livejournal.com
I wonder how any of these "professional" journalists thought any of this was okay, and inconsequential.

Because the Murdoch mission statement is "anything goes," especially when it's as far down in the gutter as possible.

Date: 2011-07-15 10:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oselle.livejournal.com
Ha, I remember the first time I saw Fox News. Best comedy I watched in years.

Well believe me, it stops being funny when it starts being you. Or us, in this case.

Date: 2011-07-14 11:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dodger-sister.livejournal.com
I swear, if Lex Luthor were real, he'd be the superhero here in modern America, while Superman would be vilified as some leftwing rabble-rouser who was just jealous of Luthor's success.

Wait...Lex isn't the hero of that story? Dammit.

I guess you saw TDS the other night then. Here in America, we just call that kind of behavior "a Tuesday".

Date: 2011-07-15 10:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oselle.livejournal.com
Wait...Lex isn't the hero of that story?

No. And believe it or not, Mr. Potter isn't the hero of It's a Wonderful Life. Shocking, isn't it? I mean he had so much money, while George Bailey was just some socialist parasite giving free houses away to undeserving "garlic eaters." I just don't get it.

I guess you saw TDS the other night then.

I thought Stewart was still on vacation. I need to catch up!

Date: 2011-07-17 12:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dodger-sister.livejournal.com
Stewart and Oliver did a whole bit about this the other night - I thought you must have seen it!

Well, Lex is pretty and has a lot of money and doesn't wear his underwear outside his clothes - so I'm going with him as the hero, no matter what you liberal hippy leftists say!

Date: 2011-07-20 10:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baylorsr.livejournal.com
Murdoch is a job-creator, the backbone of our economy and our nation!

Date: 2011-07-21 01:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oselle.livejournal.com
You're right, of course. Think of all the people who'd have to develop some actual skills without him.

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